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	<title>Comments on: Off Grid Self Sustaining Lifestyle Documentary with Les Stroud</title>
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		<title>By: Thursty</title>
		<link>http://www.livingoffgrid.org/off-grid-self-sustaining-lifestyle-documentary-with-les-stroud/comment-page-1/#comment-11569</link>
		<dc:creator>Thursty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved my family from a forty acre parcel five miles from a growing county hub that serves 30,000 plus people, to a very privet parcel on our own lake, with a half mile driveway to the nearest plowed gravel road. The kids have a half hour ride to school, with average class sizes around twenty or less kids. They were just entering fourth and fifth grade at the time. That was probably the smartest thing I ever did in my life. The kids adapted very well, and have had a much more enriched life both in school and at home. We still go to the same town for groceries and supplies as before, but it takes an hour instead of five minutes. We are not off the grid at this time, but would like to be in the near future. Educating and preparing your children for the world are no different here then there, and technology has made it even easier with satellite TV, and internet. I would rather live here and educate them on the ills and dangers of the city, then the other way around, for country kids will survive. Going off grid in the great white north doesn&#039;t mean you have to go with out. It just means you might have to wait till the next trip to town.


                             At Peace in Northern Minnesota</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved my family from a forty acre parcel five miles from a growing county hub that serves 30,000 plus people, to a very privet parcel on our own lake, with a half mile driveway to the nearest plowed gravel road. The kids have a half hour ride to school, with average class sizes around twenty or less kids. They were just entering fourth and fifth grade at the time. That was probably the smartest thing I ever did in my life. The kids adapted very well, and have had a much more enriched life both in school and at home. We still go to the same town for groceries and supplies as before, but it takes an hour instead of five minutes. We are not off the grid at this time, but would like to be in the near future. Educating and preparing your children for the world are no different here then there, and technology has made it even easier with satellite TV, and internet. I would rather live here and educate them on the ills and dangers of the city, then the other way around, for country kids will survive. Going off grid in the great white north doesn&#8217;t mean you have to go with out. It just means you might have to wait till the next trip to town.</p>
<p>                             At Peace in Northern Minnesota</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin Parker, AIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quentin Parker, AIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To ED, 

great advice, keep on blogging, people NEED your experience.
 
To Tuberg, 

educate yourself FIRST. &quot;Living in city is environmentally much more viable.&quot; Viable?  Wrong. Fact: every city generates over forty times the heatsink (carbon emissions) that a flat, rural community does. All cities are incredible energy hogs and huge wasteful energy applications. The high, glass canyons are absorbing much more heat -and releasing it- than any other habitat. ANY. 

Going off grid immediately does three things:
 
1. Increased autonomy allows for better, more reliable systems in infrastructures, large, small scale and individual.Everyone who goes off grid not only helps themselves, but everybody else.
2. Off grid releases the burdens our utilities are faced with today. Less load to carry, less peak demand cycles, less over building. The reason today for the shift to smaller, local micro-utilities. greater diversity, greater system strength
3. obvious cost advantages and much, much lower carbon emissions.  (what most do NOT understand is while there is great efficiency in large scale utilities, there is also huge amounts of production waste, harming effluent, etc. Most is found in the heat cycle, and related releases therein, toxic byproduct concentrations) Off grid uses what is needed, no more. Very, very little waste.

One other consideration for a typical septic systems and leachfields. Health matters, there is no substitute there. E coli bacteria requires separation from human interaction. Low flush toilets, tank and field offer this solution well.  Using separate gray water systems for other usage is fine. Keep poop where it breaks down naturally, a few inches below grade. That&#039;s great for the environment, btw. 

The greater the diversity of a system, the greater its resiliency to outside factors. Consider that in the US we have forty eight days of oil reserves, should the constant flow/supply stop. Then, without oil and gas, everything stops, defense, transport of goods, energy grid, heating, cooling, communications, food, water, etc. All those generators we have as back-up everywhere, without fuel don&#039;t work. 

Imagine now, if you were an enemy, devout to destroy the evil empire, you&#039;d try to deliver destruction to the 6 major US oil choke points- and watch a nation self destruct. After such an attack, nothing is rebuilt in two months, especially when there is no fuel to drive the machinery necessary for reconstruction and repair. 

Go off grid as fast as possible. Diminish your load on the energy demands of this country. It&#039;s really good for you, for me, for everybody else too. The Grid diversification movement and the technological broadband approach to energy conversion is the answer we are now trying to address as effectively - and quickly as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ED, </p>
<p>great advice, keep on blogging, people NEED your experience.</p>
<p>To Tuberg, </p>
<p>educate yourself FIRST. &#8220;Living in city is environmentally much more viable.&#8221; Viable?  Wrong. Fact: every city generates over forty times the heatsink (carbon emissions) that a flat, rural community does. All cities are incredible energy hogs and huge wasteful energy applications. The high, glass canyons are absorbing much more heat -and releasing it- than any other habitat. ANY. </p>
<p>Going off grid immediately does three things:</p>
<p>1. Increased autonomy allows for better, more reliable systems in infrastructures, large, small scale and individual.Everyone who goes off grid not only helps themselves, but everybody else.<br />
2. Off grid releases the burdens our utilities are faced with today. Less load to carry, less peak demand cycles, less over building. The reason today for the shift to smaller, local micro-utilities. greater diversity, greater system strength<br />
3. obvious cost advantages and much, much lower carbon emissions.  (what most do NOT understand is while there is great efficiency in large scale utilities, there is also huge amounts of production waste, harming effluent, etc. Most is found in the heat cycle, and related releases therein, toxic byproduct concentrations) Off grid uses what is needed, no more. Very, very little waste.</p>
<p>One other consideration for a typical septic systems and leachfields. Health matters, there is no substitute there. E coli bacteria requires separation from human interaction. Low flush toilets, tank and field offer this solution well.  Using separate gray water systems for other usage is fine. Keep poop where it breaks down naturally, a few inches below grade. That&#8217;s great for the environment, btw. </p>
<p>The greater the diversity of a system, the greater its resiliency to outside factors. Consider that in the US we have forty eight days of oil reserves, should the constant flow/supply stop. Then, without oil and gas, everything stops, defense, transport of goods, energy grid, heating, cooling, communications, food, water, etc. All those generators we have as back-up everywhere, without fuel don&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>Imagine now, if you were an enemy, devout to destroy the evil empire, you&#8217;d try to deliver destruction to the 6 major US oil choke points- and watch a nation self destruct. After such an attack, nothing is rebuilt in two months, especially when there is no fuel to drive the machinery necessary for reconstruction and repair. </p>
<p>Go off grid as fast as possible. Diminish your load on the energy demands of this country. It&#8217;s really good for you, for me, for everybody else too. The Grid diversification movement and the technological broadband approach to energy conversion is the answer we are now trying to address as effectively &#8211; and quickly as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Off Grid Ebert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Off Grid Ebert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuberg how many children do you have? Just curious. If it&#039;s more than two, shut the fuck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuberg how many children do you have? Just curious. If it&#8217;s more than two, shut the fuck up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are nuts. Living in city is environmentally much more viable. Just imagine one million people doing what you&#039;ve done, it would ruin HUGE areas of land, everyone having his own wells and such. Helicopters flying around timber and, it&#039;s despicable crap. Living there produces green house gases, wastes energy and social/mental retardation beyond anything acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are nuts. Living in city is environmentally much more viable. Just imagine one million people doing what you&#8217;ve done, it would ruin HUGE areas of land, everyone having his own wells and such. Helicopters flying around timber and, it&#8217;s despicable crap. Living there produces green house gases, wastes energy and social/mental retardation beyond anything acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: william sweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>william sweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please send me a way to order the dvd&#039;s off the grid with Les Stroud. ordering through mail.  Thank you William Sweet  6210 Log Cabin Place Lenoir NC 28645</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please send me a way to order the dvd&#8217;s off the grid with Les Stroud. ordering through mail.  Thank you William Sweet  6210 Log Cabin Place Lenoir NC 28645</p>
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