Comments on: Geniuses at a Water Plant in Ohio Mistake Hydrochloric Acid for Fluoride http://www.livingoffgrid.org/geniuses-at-a-water-plant-in-ohio-mistake-hydrochloric-acid-for-fluoride/ Info for Off Grid Homes Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:44:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Off Grid Ebert http://www.livingoffgrid.org/geniuses-at-a-water-plant-in-ohio-mistake-hydrochloric-acid-for-fluoride/comment-page-1/#comment-17549 Off Grid Ebert Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:43:06 +0000 http://www.livingoffgrid.org/?p=293#comment-17549 Liz, You make a valid point about fear mongering and what really happens when acid is diluted in enough water. Almost everything loses its ability to harm IF it is diluted in enough water. But the point is not so much "hey we could all drink acid" as it is "hey, there is an inherent danger in a centralized water supply, as there is in a centralized food system in that one person could potentially harm millions of people". You mention pathogens. Well they could cause the same problems. In a well or spring that provides water for one or a few households, those pathogens aren't going to affect nearly as many people. I understand that not everyone can move off the grid. There are too many people for that because humans seem incapable realizing the biggest threat to our survival and health is overpopulation... but my "stop breeding" rant is for another time. For those of us who want to and can move off the grid, the fact that we don't want to be part of that centralized water system is one of the many reasons. It's not fear mongering. It is common sense. Thank you for your input. Liz,

You make a valid point about fear mongering and what really happens when acid is diluted in enough water. Almost everything loses its ability to harm IF it is diluted in enough water.

But the point is not so much “hey we could all drink acid” as it is “hey, there is an inherent danger in a centralized water supply, as there is in a centralized food system in that one person could potentially harm millions of people”. You mention pathogens. Well they could cause the same problems. In a well or spring that provides water for one or a few households, those pathogens aren’t going to affect nearly as many people.

I understand that not everyone can move off the grid. There are too many people for that because humans seem incapable realizing the biggest threat to our survival and health is overpopulation… but my “stop breeding” rant is for another time. For those of us who want to and can move off the grid, the fact that we don’t want to be part of that centralized water system is one of the many reasons. It’s not fear mongering. It is common sense.

Thank you for your input.

]]> By: Liz http://www.livingoffgrid.org/geniuses-at-a-water-plant-in-ohio-mistake-hydrochloric-acid-for-fluoride/comment-page-1/#comment-17546 Liz Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:39:23 +0000 http://www.livingoffgrid.org/?p=293#comment-17546 How about the fact that most people seem unable to grasp basic principles of science? Apparently acid is scary, but when dissolved in enough water, there is virtually no change in water aside from a slight pH drop. It dissociates into H+ and Cl-, which are already in your water. Neither is going to hurt you. Alarmist misrepresentation of science is not helping. Municipal water sanitation has saved millions of lives. Before water was processed, it was frequently contaminated with potentially lethal pathogens. Let's have a little perspective, shall we? And stop fear-mongering. It's getting old. How about the fact that most people seem unable to grasp basic principles of science? Apparently acid is scary, but when dissolved in enough water, there is virtually no change in water aside from a slight pH drop. It dissociates into H+ and Cl-, which are already in your water. Neither is going to hurt you. Alarmist misrepresentation of science is not helping. Municipal water sanitation has saved millions of lives. Before water was processed, it was frequently contaminated with potentially lethal pathogens. Let’s have a little perspective, shall we? And stop fear-mongering. It’s getting old.

]]> By: Off Grid Ebert http://www.livingoffgrid.org/geniuses-at-a-water-plant-in-ohio-mistake-hydrochloric-acid-for-fluoride/comment-page-1/#comment-2106 Off Grid Ebert Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:30:05 +0000 http://www.livingoffgrid.org/?p=293#comment-2106 I think some of you are missing the point/s. See the last two paragraphs. #1 - It highlights the risk of biological or chemical terrorism via the water supply. #2 - It highlights the benefits of having your own source of water. I think some of you are missing the point/s. See the last two paragraphs.

#1 – It highlights the risk of biological or chemical terrorism via the water supply.

#2 – It highlights the benefits of having your own source of water.

]]> By: mike http://www.livingoffgrid.org/geniuses-at-a-water-plant-in-ohio-mistake-hydrochloric-acid-for-fluoride/comment-page-1/#comment-2105 mike Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:01:41 +0000 http://www.livingoffgrid.org/?p=293#comment-2105 steve is correct. the level of hydrochloric acid would at worst slightly decrease ph [lower ph is more acidic] keep in mind that even dangerous chemicals are harmless at a low enough concentration. The trick of course is to keep said chemicals below the level at which they become a problem. steve is correct. the level of hydrochloric acid would at worst slightly decrease ph [lower ph is more acidic] keep in mind that even dangerous chemicals are harmless at a low enough concentration.
The trick of course is to keep said chemicals below the level at which they become a problem.

]]> By: Joseph http://www.livingoffgrid.org/geniuses-at-a-water-plant-in-ohio-mistake-hydrochloric-acid-for-fluoride/comment-page-1/#comment-2067 Joseph Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:48:22 +0000 http://www.livingoffgrid.org/?p=293#comment-2067 Well said, Uncle B. Well said, Uncle B.

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